I don’t know about you, but I think I’m doing the dough balling wrong. My 00 is too sticky so I wet my hands, but then that seems to make the dough to moist to get it to stretch, and I certainly can’t “pinch it”…as Tony tells me too. So the third one here I used some flour instead of water to help me ball the dough, and that seemed to work much better. The dough was much more workable.